estated monster storms and later we'll have a your take by taking a live segment your chance to call in and ask a question or make a comment live on the air not just with me but by my panel as well. it's friday are you ready to rumble joining me for tonight's rumble big picture rubble chris solomon conservative commentator and activist stuart trade union organizer and author and marc harrold libertarian commentator and author and thanks for all to all of you for joining me tonight thank you very much it was ok for the first time the media is all focused on our drone warfare program there's the n.b.c. leak this week explaining that americans can be killed if they're deemed to be a member of al qaeda and pose an immediate threat john brennan the architect of that program a nominee to head up the cia testified before the senate intelligence committee on thursday where he defended the drone program so a couple of questions are we as

a nation setting a dangerous precedent by launching drone strikes against countries against people inside countries with whom we're at war chris of course it's a terrible precedent and of course it's being promulgated by president obama who started by george w. bush right but he's all for you know you guys have got to start admitting that all the things obama said he hated about bush he's doing all i am great to say i am not disagreeing with you my point is this is not internationally that is grabbing arrows and he's killing he's got his list he can kill americans overseas with no due process this is outrageous it really is outrageous and it needs to be stopped so why are the republicans in congress now speaking out why are the democrats in congress not speaking out well you know i think because they're wimps yes now you think the republicans did probably yeah ok. well i mean yes it is a bad precedent and it is wrong but let's admit the truth which is that.

war military action always leads to bad news including the deaths of civilians children noncombat but we have no declaration of war story no we don't we have this continuing war on on on terror the president was even stopped using that phrase that's good now it's time to get out of afghanistan and it's it's it's it's time so you say are you saying you support the drones no i'm not saying that at all and that's why i'm just saying that let's not pretend that you can have a clean war war is not going on and i think that this is it has to sanitize and that is and that's one of the reasons why they ought to let bradley manning out of prison out of the marine brig because we need to know what's being done and our name and and we've been separated from the horrors of the war in iraq and

afghanistan during vietnam it came into your living room every day at six thirty and you know it hasn't it hasn't it's a rag and we get to see cartoon characters mark your thoughts on this war is messy and that's why it needs to be so clearly defined nothing is more important constitutionally when the president commander in chief goes to war in the name of the people than that the people's most representative branches of government are spoken and this is it's a travesty that we do it at all we're not at war this interview we're all over the plan this intervention is policy is getting us nowhere but on this specifically when we talk about american citizens it's the you know it's definition of deprivation of life or limb this is deprivation of life without due process it's unconstitutional because we're not at war it's immoral the way it's being done and it's unconstitutional because it's a fifth amendment violation because we're killing americans without due process there's no judicial oversight it's you know we did not and six the moment some of them and i ate them on the fourteenth amendment yeah this is one of those things you ask in a vacuum hey do you think it's ok for the president to send drones over kill american citizens without any due process people just instinctively would be no of

course not i don't know how we. out here on this one this is one of those things that the really everyone and if you're not speaking out against this unless you truly believe in it but i can't imagine how we got here no one is speaking out against this is the yard and we were john you and jay bybee and you know in this terrified little cobol around bush and cheney and it has continued with the obama's initiatives at all amped up as chris correctly well and it's also the whole fact of the matter is this president has consistently said i don't care what the constitution says i'm going to do what i want i haven't heard him say those words but certainly in this case that in my opinion is yes doing and i think frankly what's going to what's going to change this is is when mexico decides that they're going to take out a mexican drug lord that they've been looking for for some time and they discover that he's in a neighborhood phoenix so they just take out a city block with a drone because these drones are cheap enough that every country in the world is going to them and so anyhow we'll see but i think we've seen we've established a horrible precedent that is going to come back to haunt us all right to work let's talk about organized labor in the last two years we've seen labor strongholds like

michigan and indiana pass right to work for less laws republicans in missouri and pennsylvania are considering as well meanwhile republicans in congress are taking a step further senator rand paul it is to a national right to work for less law this week and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell threw his support behind it were his right to work for a right to work for less states receive on average fifteen hundred dollars a year less fewer benefits experience more workplace accidents and deaths but here's the thing basically what right to work for less laws say is you're in a union shop you're getting the benefits of the union but you don't have to pay the dues what i don't understand is why you know if i went to a exclusive club that mitch mcconnell rand paul was a member of and i guarantee you they are and i walked into that club and i said i'll have a glass of champagne and i'll have a couple of those or d'oeuvres yeah i'll sit here in this nice couch and i'll have a cigar and the fellow comes over and says excuse me sir there's a private club you have to pay dues and i said no it's

a right to right to smoke cigars and drink. champagne law that's been passed chris what what do conservatives not get about being a member of a club and dues to that here is the deal tom i'm glad you set it up like this ok you have your club you know you're not a member and the union says you know what unless you join this club you have no right to work you can't get any job do you think that's fair this is a pure freedom people should have the right to get a job if they want to deal with their boss to join a union or not this is not you're talking huge organism it's not right to work for us it is whether or not you have the right to join certain clubs or not and under the under the law it don't have right to work it's like i'm sorry you're not going to be able to earn money for your family unless we get to take more of your paycheck into our coffers to spend on our policies and our politicians and that's

not freedom it's not fair and it's just outrageous that people are forty you would rather have a job you're forced to pay so much you know you're on the roster and here. you are you are a target of your for ladder one person should should try and take on the force of the private yes that's a free ride i think union should be able to tell people i'm a little you work and i literally want to work on those who are good my free market is a member of the bar association he has to be a member of the bar association every doctor is a member of the medical association they have to be members of the medical association to practice right to right to work says that the union can negotiate your contract get you the raises get you the benefits and is required by federal law to represent you if you work there but you shouldn't have to pay union dues even if it's been bargained between the rest. and the employer. they are so and so

and so the right to work. with you strip it down it's simply a way to weaken unions we've worked on all kinds a right to work fights i've worked on several right tort fights myself the truth of the matter is wages are better in right to work states as you said they're bad the benefits are better and if some of them want to work in a right to work in a union shop go someplace where there's plenty of other places so you know so chris are you saying that they and that more and let me just make this clear if you don't agree with the unions politics there's a rule called the back rule and you can write the union and say and say i don't want any of my agency fees you're going to have to join the union just the fees for representation to go to any political activity and the union is required to

withhold that amount of your of your money so mark you know the government should stay absolutely out of this i disagree with rand paul on this one i agree with a lot of what he comes up with but i disagree here there is an association all right it is involved here but if they did but it's a first amendment association rights limitation on government were really a limitation on congress but a limitation on government generally the way it's been interpreted bottom line here is what's paramount is the government should not be interfering with private contracts the employer may want to have a union shop i mean that might be his goal and that's a contract he should be able to enforce between themselves and his employees the government should stay out of it the associational concerns go away from the first member constitutional point of view of the government stays out of it i think this is one where the vatican matters on the interference of contractors the money is of paramount importance to main that when the government stayed out of it employers were literally killing people who were trying to unionize i mean literally the rockefeller rockefeller's ludlow child rather than nine hundred thirty nine closer to the homestead twenty thirteen it's one hundred that's or now i think that's why

the wagner act was passed in one thousand thirty five was because so many people. be murdered by not by use by employers who did not want to have unions in their place of state assistance and to go back to mark's point let's talk about government unions or public session or union you think where the latter may not happen showing his taking the money out of the paycheck and then handing it to a union i mean that is simply a way to try to weaken unions there is no need to way there is no free there is no brainer you can see their mind with when i want to go for you to show up at a fancy golf go for dessert and say i don't have to be a member of tell i have the right to. know who or not is this the states they pick to run this. except for indiana from michigan to wisconsin tool to pennsylvania are states that progressives have to win to win federal elections that was deliberate this in some way did we could actually make pass right to work

ninety percent of the union members opt out no because they love it. so. let me give you let me show you the best example there was a good year play in union city tennessee which is close to work in progress to the extreme northwest corner of tennessee they had two thousand workers here tennessee's a right to work state there were six non members out of two thousand which may mean it was entirely voluntary what they had yesterday was already stated joy but you don't want to extend that freedom to other people so your argument is that when people have freedom then killing but we should coworkers other people just in case they might think for them no no all i'm sayin is that the union has to represent the union negotiates a contract the employer agrees they should have to pay some pretty not membership fee some call the agency fee for that but that representation that we've got to wrap for just just will have more of tonight's big picture already.

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a problem that frankly is substantially preventable it was like the big elephant in the room and nobody wanted to talk about there were really good public health campaigns that people were really focused on this problem you certainly should be able to a lot less a lot less human suffering. more news today volunteers once again flared up. these are the images and seeing from the streets of canada. today. thank you rob will join me tonight are chris solomon stuart

a cuff and marc harrold let's get back to it what does a prison state look like increasingly it looks like america according to a new congressional research report the federal prison population in america has increased nearly eight hundred percent since ronald reagan was sworn in when there were just twenty five thousand federal inmates nationwide today there are two hundred nineteen thousand which makes the united states number one in the world in jailing its own citizens both per capita in an absolute numbers the congressional research service attributed the prison population spiked to an uptick in nixon's drug war and republican laws that require mandatory minimum jail sentences congressional research service is advise as congress to repeal mandatory minimums and expand early release programs legislation was introduced in congress last week to tax and regulate marijuana just like alcohol in those states that have legalized it like washington and colorado so the question mark isn't it time for us to fail

and nixon's failed drug war and say enough already absolutely one hundred seventy controlled substances act especially putting marijuana as a schedule one which it clearly should not be has led to mass incarceration early on it was the one nine hundred seventy act it was nixon it was followed through with don't just say no with reagan and nancy reagan you know spearheaded that to large degree and then more recently we've got a absolute you know penetration of both state of local politics state politics and national politics with private prison companies and bed space has become a commodity we have a country that you know where we seem to not know exactly who were with war with around the country i can tell you with these drug laws this mass incarceration this this country is currently at war with its own citizens because you criminalize so much that everyone's a criminal and you put these folks in jail this is ridiculous we incarcerate more you know this land of the free home of the brave in all this and we're talking about drone strikes against our citizens and incarcerating me. more people than any other country per capita you start to really wonder what kind of moral high ground we have in the in the world on the you know on the world stage because you know

people look at these things and it's just amazing to me this war on drugs is a failed thing it's a war on our citizens it needs to end it's starting to crumble a little bit but my problem is i think that as it the society accepts it and it crumbles in the popular culture at least with the electorate these prison companies are still going to have the authority through lobbying to keep it going you realize you're arguing against the privatization it was absolutely there's always two or three arguments i was come off you know in here it is not quite a libertarian no it's not at all and i get criticized for it but there i believe in privatization a lot of things but especially with my background in law enforcement again seems a little bit you know to be attention i don't believe in private prisons because you're talking about incarcerating people not only deciding laws should force incarceration through a system function of the state is just yesterday only had one area i don't know where they live as a steward not only are we imprisoning our own people but we're doing it using using nixon's failed drug war but we're doing it in a very bizarre and arguably very racist fashion you look at the stats on who's

using illegal drugs in the united states pot heroin cocaine the illegal drugs and by about a ten to one ratio it's white teenagers and yet you look at who's incarcerated for it and by about a ten to one ratio it's young african-american men right i mean this is there is there is there is something wrong on all whole buncha levels here a whole lot of levels i mean part of it is that as you know we've had thirty five years of stagnant wages there are no more with the d.m.d.'s realisation of the country there are no more good paying jobs for people with just high school education there's a sense of hopelessness and in large communities of people that's one two there's no as mark correctly pointed out a profit motive than locking up people. correct. corporation of america is probably the worst offender at that we're building more and more private prisons are allowing corporations to build more and more private prefers

a few actual growth industries in the one of the states one of the few growth industries and that's that's really sad and mort made a good point about criminalizing so much be hate private behavior but i do think we cannot leave. the economic problem which is like i say thirty five years of stagnant wages declining benefits and. underclass of its creator so so you and i don't have young people who become entrepreneurs because there's no other option and they become entrepreneurs or something that's illegal because they can't break into the legal economy that's exactly right and something like this is happening in a lot of western democracies the in formalisation of work in other words underground work in this country not to mention what exists and so what it's done to places like guatemala and honduras and colombia which had some in mexico which

have militarized their entire country to try to sponsor already of our drug and saudi chris i know i have somewhat of a libertarian and streak and i will just criticize both sides but we have a problem in this country and that is our our legislators on the local state and federal level love to make laws whether. it's needed or not and so so much like the other guest said private behavior is now illegal and that's a real problem and i used to work for someone who used to always joke that the worst thing that happened in washington d.c. was air conditioning because congress was only in town for a couple months and then in the summer they'd have to leave instead of sitting around dreaming up new ways to to pass laws to make different things illegal i mean except you just have to back in the one nine hundred twenty s. before air conditioned. it is the original answer. drug wars right but a real mad saying is that you know for every problem. our legislature seems to

think that there has to be a legal a law solution and sometimes our problems are we always i seem to do just fine as a country for over one hundred years when everything from marijuana to heroin were legal and available over the counter i just don't understand why you know portugal has done this not to be decriminalized all drugs all drugs and basically what they've done is they've broken the back of organized crime they're cutting each i.v. infection rates they're dramatically cutting their drug addiction rates actually because people people kids can see so you don't worry government revenue yeah exactly i mean you know look what happened when we handed out all prohibition you know it's you know people can actually come out and get treatment if they if they're addicted and well i will say i don't support the legalization of drugs primarily for as so that the government will have yet another thing to tax if they're not banning something or legislating about it they're taxing it and so you know we have to be worried that if you're not being put in jail for it you're being

required to pay a fee in the form of a tax to the government for it so there's a very yeah there's very little that where you are allowed to do in this country that is not either illegal or tax a boat on wednesday to allow gays to openly serve as scouts and leaders of the late under pressure from religious groups and in principle mormons here's an anti-gay board voices within the scouts here's what president obama said about the boy scouts. my attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and and opportunity the same way everybody else does in every institution and walk away and . you know that the scouts are a great institution that are. promoting young people and exposing them to. and leadership that you know will serve people for the rest of their lives and i think that nobody should be barred for that so stuart shouldn't the boy scouts come

into the twenty first century i mean regionally the scouts were created as a as an organization of repair young men for the army the military has now said we're going to embrace gays which i don't get it with the scouts well absolutely they should i mean there should be the same rights for people who have a different sexual orientation lesbian gay transgender bisexual people is anybody else. you know people should be allowed to be who they are and to be treated with dignity and respect just because they're human beings and that goes for the scouts and anybody else now that's you know the problem here is some people . get confused and and and misconstrue being gay with with pedophilia well it's not that they're misconstrued i think it's that they're intentionally conflating the right that's the argument let is there about this ok chris in the competitive environment so the boy scouts have existed

for i don't know one hundred hundred fifty years and it's about personal growth god and country a lot of boy scout troops are headquartered. through churches and people want to have an organization and we support them because they're five to one c three so we support that we have that don't go into the red herring out on that tom said referring listen to this if there are so many americans who want such a group then why don't they start their own group why do they have derailed son of the guy who started the boy scouts started a group for gay scouts and well why don't they just started their own group as it was like you know any area zero dollars for a zero zero zero instead they want it really is a good gay gay people not gay people know for four straight people just have another i would like to be really here you know the argument that another thirty years ago it was made about not letting no action to the boys i did not say that

you should have a separate organization just for gays there are a group of people who want unity everybody all together so what do they do they go to an organization that already exists and say you have to change instead of saying hey you know what we're going to start our own everybody's welcome gay straight whatever everybody's welcome and we're going to compete a body just liberals can't stand competition so they have to go into existing organizations and change them. just a minute left mark and this seems to me like a civil rights issue particular with an organization that state funds state funds and is tax exempt and i think that there is a civil rights aspect to this if they're taking the federal funds are going to have to comply with those laws they certainly can always go pure private and not take any funds at all. i think the boy scouts and there are some issues with his argument but i had a little you know do they have a right to preserve this policy if they want to they do i believe they do as a private organization and you get the funding things will different i'm an eagle scout i'm a boy scout i came all the way through scouting you can judge how good an organization it is i guess but i'm an eagle scout and my personal view is i would get rid of

this policy i think it is discriminatory i don't think it's a good message to send i think part of advancing as a as a boy or as a man or a woman in the girl scouts is a situation where you need to realize where the world is today i think they have the right to the policy if they want as a private organization my personal opinion even if the eagle scout is a boy scout is that they need to abandon this it is discriminatory they all had our say on that last question quickfire who knew former president george w. bush enjoyed pain himself in the nude the smoking gun is in possession of several images it claims were hacked from personal e-mails belonging to people close to the bush family and those e-mails contain a number of paintings that were allegedly done by the former president himself two of the pains depict bush bathing one in the shower and one in the bath can you spell narcissist and the third picture shows bush hard at work over a canvas painting a church acar named who suffers claim responsibility for the stolen e-mails says there's more to come so which bush original is your favorite shower no the bathtub

no you are the church mark i mean really you know if you're going to paint nudes who paints themselves i don't know which is my favorite i don't know i mean if you want to paint nudes or you know whatever fine but who paints themselves especially one of his feet i agree a little narcissistic very very narcissistic i wonder what they learn it yale i mean if you had a brand people on the block we know that. it's ok we just have ten seconds i like this picture of barney he did a really nice painting that i had just died that was really so rewarding. and i think he's planning on selling them to pay for his you know war crimes trial so it's just a fact chris solomon stewart a barrel mark harold stick around ok. if you want to chance to ask me or our rumble guess a question live on the big picture give us a call into a two not all four twenty one thirty four maybe we'll be talking to you after this

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well give me your take my take a lie the phone lines are now open so if you want to share an opinion make a comment ask a question to me or any of our rubble guest give us a call or two and two nine zero four twenty one thirty four our first caller the night is carol in late as that lane the brassica. actually ok number. i'm a novice born here but i want to ask for to a point to pennsylvania ok so what's your question or your comment my comment is to you and and i wish in new york in a cabinet shop on their bill right then i did

a quick feeling for you you know and we did all of your engine or we were cheaper than this and then. yeah and then and now it's at nineteen fifty i started so i started my own business there were two guys trying to be for me to put in make up but i heard union guy and i could beat anybody try shish. an eight year old or pay my interrupting you but i kind of like to get to is your point that union labor is a good thing in that order can you make your point in. your question. ok so that's that's about it carol thank you very much i mean you know unions are really a part of america chris they're you know they're just and they should be able to exist but they shouldn't be able to force people to join and force people to take part of their paychecks to fund parts that they don't agree with absolutely i mean

that harry associations nobody nobody nobody else has anybody. no anon right to work states they didn't you know you could you know what the joining but you don't have to work you don't have to join the. and you can can you keep your job you just have to pay the dues for the work that the union does on your behalf that's all and you don't have to join the union has had to speak to him or any pedicle activity yet you don't have to pay for it you want to give me your hands many thousands are going i don't not have examples i don't know you're lying on every oh i can tell you i was just chief of staff utility workers we kept a running list of of the people who objected to political activities under the back statute we had to and those. i'm sorry that part of their fee was returned and that's that's the law and that's not right to work for law states right to work it's course you know it's well but i mean his politics. his point is

just said the training is so much better and people tim because the wages are better and the benefits are better people tend to make a career in a you know i work forty years union too and i shot her in dyersville iowa take her by the boy scouts. yes go ahead you're on the air. in the usa to do it or. twelve years ago there was an article about it england. how the homosexuals wanted to lure the consent is down the twelve years old they were ordered thanks a lot of it's like you know this whole as as as story was saying earlier these these attempts to conflate homosexuality and pedophilia are not just. morally wrong and stupid is not quite the right word but i mean i mean yeah but there's that

but they are stupid i mean they're just you know they're factually incorrect i'm just we're not going to go there gregory in sherman oaks california gregory what's on your much i don't know hello tom the proposed to global financial transactions micro towns a vitally important reform that is best known these days as the robin hood. i think would be much better promoted with the name easy to act at least in the united states and a cheesy because this really would be the easiest to collect virtually automatic clearly collected in most painless. and productive tax possible. in the most socially and environmentally productive so on chablis do it and he wants the suggested name and i bet it's a great name and thanks for the point gregory marc what he's talking about is what we used to call the stat tax the securities transaction excise tax it was put into place in the united states in one thousand nine hundred sixty help pay for the spanish-american war it stood until nine hundred sixty four it was actually doubled

in one nine hundred thirty five by f.d.r. to pay for the s. and c. and the reason that they dumped it in sixty four was because it was generated so much more money than the s.e.c. cost to run some bright person congress said let's get rid of this and it was you know a tenth of one percent on every stock transaction and it's kept the stock market kind of moving nice an easy but now we've got these guys who are making a fortune doing a million trades a microsecond and it's destabilized our system i'm curious your your take on a lot of big. and of it first of all you're talking about taxing without any profit you're talking about just taxing to be in a market that's equal in a sales tax what is the equivalent of a sales tax but to use a market any time you start to tax a market you start you can start to manipulate the market you know is there is a way to do it isn't i mean we're paying for that market i understand well the market in some we all suffered when that market crash we did but you're talking about a transactional tax that in my opinion has the potential in the aggregate to take into that market i mean i believe in the free market i don't think you attach

a tax just to be in the market if you haven't i don't mean capital gains taxes out of control this is not a free market this is a market that is established by government stock markets are regulated by government if they weren't regulated by government it would be like like we were talking earlier the derivatives market which was not regulated by anybody and that's why it went from zero in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred trillion dollars and then in two thousand and eight the other aspects of that are regulated some degree it's very much over regulated but the problem here is you're still talking about i think you do you can start to impact the way people act in a market even this market by so you're opposed to this and i'm opposed to ok stuart is absolutely most of the european union is just put as it unless i'm absolutely for the transaction tax i think it's necessary i think it's important it's clearly not an impediment it's so small it's not an impediment to the market in any way and frankly i have personal experience with close friends who've tried to bet against those computers and there's a lot of people who are being hurt. on this day trading kind of

a deal and so yeah i'm going to be a christian leader i don't know too much about it but my gut reaction to this is. what we actually want is more individuals in the markets then some of these big things and if you're taxing it aren't you keeping out the people who might actually be prevented from doing it is the mark of this tax is so small that if you're if you've got one hundred thousand bucks a. any rolling over once or twice a year you might spend ten dollars but if you're doing one hundred billion dollars in trades a day like some of these big banks are where they just skim a billion dollars off the top then it becomes a couple million dollars and at that point they've got to seriously start thinking but. in milwaukee a house here on the or what's up. at the lady on the panel i didn't give her a name but. she said something about how horrible it would be to tax

a drug legalizing and taxing drugs for the i think it's a made to order thing. control the quality. instead of having to buy it from most of the rock. it would be a whole lot better as a former drug user myself and i do mean former. it would be when we have the revenue. for our infrastructure it would also be. the people who are incarcerated now for crappy marijuana laws. what they'd rather what they had rather do. i get your point and i just want to say to howie and everybody else i didn't mean that we shouldn't tax it i just said as the motivation for legalization that the government can make money on it shouldn't be the only motivation for legalization of a policy it should be good public policy first but this idea that hey let's legalize it so we can tax it now we should have good solid public policy reasons

for for legalizing it but if we're going to we have to have nationalized and regulated that means that there's going to be some costs associated with that at the very least it's not inappropriate or cover those costs or something called a tax right now when if we want to discourage it the way we do i mean yes we tax cigarettes and alcohol but we certainly are trying to discourage cigarette use through astronomically high taxes so you know is the drug use going to be the same thing are we going to tax it to the max or not will. jack in philly hey jack you've got some thoughts on collective bargaining. oh yes you're trying to help here i just want to know what everybody know what they are going to. try to. reach be able to get a half decent figure we still get used to. the straighter we show you i mean if it does i can't see you i can't see them. trying to make you

know right to work state yeah jack thanks for that thanks for the point stuart one of the stats that i always used my dad actually told me this but i seen it petered other other places is that whatever the union wage is about an equivalent number of workers twenty percent of the people in the city have a union wage forty percent of all the workers in the city are making the union or are union members forty percent get the union wage isn't it about one hundred percent more to avoid it's that but it's also you know though those wages go into a local economy they go into retail sales they go into. school tax they go into places of worship time i mean the more money that you know is that they are going to hear more here is for workers making more money which is right a different argument so stephen in los angeles steve you want to talk about violence. yes and i want to challenge the notion that. it's cause i

actually. think that there's the bad in your genes it's causing both and then you'll go into you know what it would be much of what it is now that you that energy and if you take you if you censor film violence you have more of the actual. thank you steve if anybody have any thoughts i don't disagree with him that there's something weird about the gestalt there's i guess the spirit of the times but i think i think the film via violence absolutely leads to real violence now i'm not for censoring the film industry but i think as citizens we all have an obligation because what is advertising advertising is based on the belief that what you see will make you act a certain way well. i met eyes you know they were. if you get you know if you see that juicy big mac makes you want one i mean we've all seen the yummy commercials

oh i want that so why do you have any diet makes you want to kill people watching someone die actually puts that idea in your head where maybe you never had that thought before it seems normal it happens all the time i mean come on that's what advertisement is i don't know ok i don't disagree with you i mean you know. these video games were created by the military to teach soldiers out to kill but do you think that's one percent or eighty percent of the problem we have twenty seconds anybody else want to join i just like to say that i'm not a fan of her too it's violence and movies and i don't like i watch worked out of a few right i have to but i will say that in one case it's it is very good and that is in django unchained parenting you know well he showed all the horror he dial that actually considerably i mean he. tried in one movie to show all the barbarism slavery and i think that all if you haven't seen django unchained do it ok that's it for your take my take alive thanks to chris mark stuart for you for your calls when you get your call tonight give us

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are twelve cities in the united states in which half of the people with hiv aids lives within a year of a diagnosis of. over sixty two percent of those species i diagnosed with aids this is a problem that frankly is substantially preventable it was like the big elephant in the room and nobody wanted to talk about there were really good public health campaigns if people really focused on this problem you certainly should be able to hold a lot less h i feel a lot less human suffering. let me let me i want to know why don't you let me ask you a question. here on this network is what we're having a debate we have our knives out. but if you feel the slightest about staying there again you're in a situation where being i don't want me to talk about the surveillance me.

right now millions of americans across the northeast are experiencing the effects of a winter storm which some are describing as having the potential to be an historic and unprecedented winter storm watch of the northeast as. expecting to see snow fall amounts anywhere from three to twenty four inches in some localized areas could see as much as three feet of snow and along with that day allusion of snow this winter whopper is packing very high winds some reaching hurricane force lately it seems like monsters snowmageddon like storms are becoming the norm during winter here in the northeast or actually we're sort of south of that but in course we all remember the devastating impacts that hurricane sandy had in the region it's a few short months ago so what are americans in the northeast in store for this weekend as winter storm nemo yet another in mind or of the devastating effects of

climate change and joining me now is dr brenda exports a climate scientist with the union of concerned scientists dr wurzel thank you for joining us tonight so what is a based on what you're seeing and hearing is normal an anomaly is this the new normal what's going on here well nor'easters have long batter the new england region what scientists are looking at are the underlying conditions that have shifted because of climate change for example with this winter storm what we see is an arctic blast of air colliding with the north north atlantic more and more air and those waters over the north atlantic stretching from new jersey to massachusetts are unseasonably warm and that adds massive amounts of water moisture to the atmosphere and heat and that can power very intense rain or snowfall amounts ok it is and that's why and that's presumably why neemo is so particularly strong

this there it could be a record breaker for boston region especially some of the last heavy heavy snows are really at risk of the power infrastructure roof collapsing and so we are really really fortunate with these good forecasts people can stay at home and stay safe we have a graph of the frequency of these severe weather is a weather event so. showing on the screen right now you've seen this you've really had of it sure looks to me i mean this goes back to nine hundred thirty it sure looks to me like we're looking at not just a trend but literally a new the new normal a phrase i used earlier. is that possible is that the facts as it appears to be and b. how much worse than this is going to get shore well hot off the presses a draft national climate assessment was released for public comment a few weeks ago and in there it has

a disturbing figure about the northeast region has seen the increase between one thousand nine hundred fifty eight and two thousand and eleven of the heaviest rain or snow fall vents that about seventy four percent higher amounts of precipitation are falling in the northeast region and that's the part of the us that seeing the most the second region that's seeing the most heaviest increase in these events are in the midwest meanwhile part of the united states are literally on fire they're experiencing drought is is all of this the the consequence of climate change and can we expect it to search shifting around and moving around or are we seeing things that you for example you said the ocean waters are warm and so we can say with some reasonable probability that that's going to continue over the next decades you know in the lifetime of the next generation certainly and what we're seeing right now will just see amplified or is it just going to go yes you're absolutely right that the models that scientists are looking at where we can do

lots of atmospheres and do lots of tests and what is shown is that in general the web is are expected to get wetter and the dry places are expected to get drier which means the extremes are something that our current infrastructure and how we've planned our societies and our civilizations we have to get better preparing for these climate extremes right what about those places. does the that seem you know here we are in the midwest and in the east coast there's a lot of land mass for a lot of air to interact with what about like the pacific northwest of the west coast of the united states there's just the giant atlantic ocean out there which is weather wise kind of a giant desert. well they're going to the western u.s. a seen a lot of change too there's recent research that i was seeing at the american be a logical society in january which showing the return of vents of some of the extreme heat waves in the western u.s. are many more times likely to occur because of climate change and so the risk of

these extreme heat events and ironically in the winter these intense blizzards and snowstorms is also expected with climate change is there a. linear relationship or a measurable relationship between carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and these kind of kinds of weather we do see a clear link between the he trapping emissions from coal fire cap our plants burning down trees in the tropical forests and the warming planet and the warming planet is leading to this wacky extreme events so so really it's global weirding i mean it's it's it's people say oh there's no climate change look at snowing now this is actually proof of global climate change or at least a symptom of it with absolutely heavy heavy snowfall is is completely consistent with after i mentioned thanks so much for being with us think you much appreciate.

something interesting is happening in australia new study by the research firm bloomberg new energy finance is found that unsubsidized renewable energy is now cheaper than. fossil fuels like coal and gas in australia in fact it's a lot cheaper day to show that wind farms in australia unsubsidized no subsidies can produce energy at about eighty million eighty dollars per megawatt meanwhile coal plants are producing energy at one hundred forty three dollars a megawatt and gas at one hundred sixteen dollars a megawatt unlike the united states where energy companies can pollute and have the costs from illnesses to environmental degradation picked up by the tax payers australia has a carbon tax which partially explains why renewables have

a price advantage but the data shows that even without the cost of the carbon tax factored in wind energy is still fourteen cents cheaper than coal and eighteen cents cheaper than gas and this is in a nation australia that relies more heavily on coal than any other industrialized nation in the world and that coal reliance is going to soon change as companies in australia are wicklow adopting new and cheaper renewable energies as the study found banks and lending institutions here's a clue in australia are now less and less likely to finance new coal plants on because they've become a bad investment and while australian wind is cheapest now by two thousand and twenty and maybe sooner solar power will also be cheaper than coal and gas in australia. the energy game is rapidly changing in that country michael a brick the chief executive of bloomberg new energy finance noted the perception

that fossil fuels are cheap and renewables are expensive is now out of date well here's a news flash that perception has been out of date for a while now even here in the united states according to the energy information administration looking ahead to two thousand and sixteen natural gas is the cheapest energy in the united states at roughly sixty six dollars a megawatt coal comes in second ninety four dollars a megawatt or right behind coal and renewal is renewable wind at ninety seven dollars a megawatt which in larger part accounts for why us wind energy production has tripled just since two thousand and unlike in australia none of those u.s. prices account for the extra maladies the costs associated with fossil fuels like pollution and cancers asthma's military protection global warming in america the fossil fuel industries made sure that those extra maladies are not paid

for by the coal and gas energy producers who are paid for by you and me. fossil fuel industry doesn't pay a penny for the cost of a rapidly accelerating and degrading climate or climate change or the health care costs are exhausted or refinery driven diseases and deaths from air or water and other kinds of pollution not to mention the community costs a decrease in property values when a coal plant is put in your backyard. they don't pay a penny toward the cost of our navy keeping the oil shipping lanes open or our soldiers protecting the countries that produce all that oil. all these externalities that come with fossil fuel production pretty much don't exist with the renewable energy production. and those extra now those extra costs are not only paid for by the not paid for by the fossil fuel industry they're never even

mentioned in the corporate run news media in america. research in the annals of the new york academy of sciences concludes that the total cost of these extra nowadays if paid by the polluters themselves would raise us fossil fuel prices by as much as three dollars a megawatt and that's an extremely conservative estimate. which puts wind power on parity with coal in the united states trend lines are pretty clear buggy wave weapon meet automobile renewables are getting cheaper and fossil fuels are getting more expensive which is why we as a nation need to throw everything we have at making renewable energies our primary way of power in america into the twenty first century think of it as a new manhattan project that project to build a nuclear bomb super fast or a world war two we need green energy local energy and

a twenty first century smart grid to handle over time the marketplace would do this for us but we're just about every other developed country in the world ahead of us and our dependence on oil making us more and more tightly bound to middle eastern dictators and radicals to wait and hope the big transnational corporations are going to help birth a new america is both naive and stupid instead of depending upon the. we should be recovering from them the cost of those extra analogies because of the sicknesses in the military the whole thing with a carbon tax that can be used to build a new energy infrastructure right here in the united states let's take a lesson from australia and the euro zone which are both set up carbon taxes to make nineteenth century energy barons pay for at least some of the damage that they've done and then let's use the revenue from that carbon tax for

a green energy revolution right here in the united states considering the threats of disease climate change war only an idiot or a fossil fuel billionaire like charles or david koch would want us to bring in more oil with a pipeline or take any other steps to continue america's dependence on dirty and costly nineteenth century fuels. and that's the way it is tonight friday february eighth two thousand and thirteen for more information check out our website thom hartmann dot com free speech dot org archie dot com and hulu dot com slash big picture and don't forget the markers it begins with you not a spectator sport get out there get active take your seat next week.

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